Fable 2 Stay With Family a While After Spire

Jack of Blades planned to possess the Hero of Oakvale all along

Everything he did from the starting time was both to go the Sword of Aeons, and to cultivate the Hero to become his new vessel - because with both the Sword and the immense power in the Hero'south body, he'd be absolutely unstoppable. Thus, the pure evil ending works out perfectly for him, exactly as he planned all along.

Legend iv, Democracy will come to Albion because of Commander's Milton's influence on the Hero of Brightwall

While Milton and his mentor may have been extremists, the Hero realizes they still had a indicate. He/She shall, during their reign, do abroad with the Monarchy system to make sure no one person has the power to plough into a autocrat if they go evil and setup either a republic or a republic more than in line with Milton and General Turner's vision of the people receiving representation and a say in their state. Fable 4 will accept identify in an Albion where the new form of government has already been running for a while.

Theresa's plan, in full

Then, this is merely me taking a load of coincidences and stringing them together into a theory, but I love information technology anyway, so hither we become. Young Theresa learns from Scythe about the Corruption and how it'southward cached away in Aurora. We can presuppose some sort of collaboration betwixt them considering Theresa sends Rose to be with Scythe if you resurrect her at the end of Fable II. Him telling her makes more sense than her foreseeing information technology because it explains how she knows its origins and such. She decides she can't let it destroy Albion, so she decides she needs to be in a position to know and therefore manipulate all variables in regards to the Corruption'southward return, so she sets about rebuilding the Spire to give her the power to see all possible futures.

In Fable Two, she arranges for the death of Lucien'due south family, then appears in his dreams to push button him toward rebuilding the Spire and ensures all four Heroes she needs to power information technology upward and take control of information technology accept grievances confronting Lucien so they'll assistance her stop him from using it in fourth dimension for her to step in equally its new owner. And then, in Fable III, she guides the protagonist toward defeating the Corruption, or so she thinks. Peradventure mistaking the Crawler for the leader of the Corruption, rather than a lieutenant of the leader, she leaves the Spire after his defeat and is after blindsided by an attack from the Devourer, leading to the events of Fable: The Journey.

That game sees through the destruction of the Corruptor'due south other lieutenants, and a final wish from Theresa. Simply what could that wish exist? It doesn't have to exist the destruction of the Corruption, because the Abuse only has power in Albion every bit long every bit the Spire exists, and the Spire is destroyed at the cease of Fable: The Journey. And so what is her actual wish?

To go dorsum in time and become the leader of the Shadow Court.

Some have already observed that the leader of the Shadow Court has Theresa's character model rendered every bit a shadow being. But there are lots of other connections. The Shadow Court is located where you outset meet Theresa in Fable. One of the distinctive enemies in Wraithmarsh, where the Courtroom hold sway, are banshees, which look like Theresa and even cover their eyes every bit if blind. The little minions they transport out are hog-tailed footling girls, similar Theresa as a kid in Oakvale. But why would she want to practise such a thing?

Considering only through the existence of the Shadow Courtroom can her program succeed. Because if the Shadow Courtroom don't destroy Oakvale to brand Reaver immortal, he tin't exist the Hero of Skill in Legend Two and therefore she can't acquire the Spire. Then she goes dorsum in time, establishes or joins the Shadow Court and maybe even uses her personal knowledge of Reaver, as a resident of her hometown, to entice him towards the Shadow Courtroom, make the wish and ensure a Stable Time Loop that ends with the defeat of the Corruption.

• Interesting enough the original blueprint for Encounter the Futures Snowglobe department was going to be the same monochrome wait but set in the original Oakvale from Fable i, immediately before the events of the start of Legend ane. It was going to have everyone cease up in their positions for the start of Legend i it was as well going to reveal that information technology was Theresa who unlocked the gate to let the bandits in, so that it would trigger the Fable 1 player grapheme to become a hero to stop Jack.

Scythe is the Archon

This should probably be stated anyhow since its not been officially declared..In the side textile released past Lionhead, the 'Tales of Albion' refers to Archon's last days, how, dismayed with his children's actions, he clothed himself in gilt armour and a blue cloak, and vanished without a trace. Then, some years later, Scythe appears in the world dressed in, you guessed it, aureate armour, wrapped in a blue cloak.

The Hero of Oakdale relieve-scummed killing Theresa and getting the Sword of Aeons, and then reversed it.

In the original Fable; ane could become the Sword of Aeons by Character Saving only not Game Saving. And so ane could redo the mission and destroy the Sword of Aeons...with the Sword of Aeons copy that you have. This is non Gameplay and Story Segregation. Salvage Scumming was an actual spell the Hero of Oakdale could do. And he did "temporarily" kill his sister for the sword. However, the Sword of Aeons was too important; and the Timeline corrected itself, (except for one stain-drinking glass window Theresa commissioned) and turned the displaced "sword energy" into Avo'due south Tear. (This displaced energy besides depowered the Sword of Aeons in any timelines the hero chose to kill Teresa permanently, hence it being less powerful in the Lost Capacity.)

• Nightmare Fuel. Theresa is a Seer who tin see other timelines. She knows he did this. Hence her getting the hell away from him even in the "good" timeline; and subjecting subsequently Heroes through perhaps unnecessary trials.

Theresa is responsible for everything in Fable 2

Information technology was all a Gambit Roulette engineered in society for her to gain the Spire. Think virtually it, Lucien looses his wife and child, so suddenly finds out not but about the spire, merely also well-nigh iii heroes he needs, and a quaternary who volition oppose him. Who did he learn this from? Theresa. Then, some time later, Theresa individually tracks down the fourth hero, and persuades the siblings to gain an ancient artifact. Immediately afterward gaining this, Lucien somehow knows where they are, and what they've done.Lucien tries to kill the hero, merely fails, and Theresa so sends the hero on a massive quest to gather exactly what Lucien needs, only for Lucien to announced over again and accept the heroes to the Spire. Finally, the Hero somehow procures the aforementioned artifact from before, and defeat Lucien. End result, Lucien is gone, and the Hero is indebted to Theresa such that they couldn't perhaps deny her the Spire.The only possible explanation is Theresa was manipulating both the hero and Lucien the whole time, not simply the Hero.

• It doesn't help that when she claims the Spire, it comes off equally really creepy.
  • Or that, when Lucien is asked what he did to Theresa later on ambushing the assembled Heroes atop Hero Hill, his response is, "All I did was listen."
    • OR that if Theresa is actually 400 years erstwhile, she could have even been involved with Reaver's mysterious past in Oakvale. Traumatic village-destroying result? Been there, done that.
  • In the "Come across The Terminate" expansion pack, it is unsaid by Murgo that Theresa is the one who is supplying him with all the magical goods that are provided to the hero. Which ways she almost likely supplied him with the musical box in the kickoff of the game.

The Theresa in Legend two isn't really Theresa

If yous become the book item 'Hero of Oakvale' (the hero from Fable 1), it says just two facts are agreed upon; That the hero defeated jack of Blades twice, and that the hero wielded the Sword of Aeons. This makes killing your sister in Fable 1 canonical, making it impossible for her to be around in Fable two. My theory is that what guides the Hero in Fable 2 is non Theresa, only the Sword of Aeons itself, taking Theresa's form, possibly fifty-fifty having captivated her consciousness in the ritual.

• This Theresa has eyes whereas Theresa was blinded past Jack cutting out her eyes. Just an additional comment.
  • Remember that cutting out one's optics doesn't always mean ripping them completely off, just merely just blind them by a straight hit to them. Nonetheless I always thought them to be eyesockets filled with the glow of Will magic. And don't forget Reaver's words when he meets Theresa for the first time:

    Reaver: Blind, eh? I'd rather take mute.

• On the other side of the statement though...maybe Theresa wanted the Hero of Oakvale to whack her with the sword, perhaps she captivated the swords power to gain immortality.
  • One trouble: in F1, in that location was a virtually unknown but equal Skilful sword that complemented Aeons, the Avo's Tear. But as powerful, but far less known and far more than obscure. Given the considerable passage of time, how do we not know that the Avo's Tear was mistaken for Aeons, particularly since I've seen GAMERS get the two mixed upwards in the existent world?
    • This is unsaid to be the instance. In Fable 1, after killing Jack of Blades the first fourth dimension, a picture is shown for sparing Theresa, the good ending, while a different one is shown for killing her, the evil ending. The movie shown in Fable 2'south Chamber of Fate is the same one every bit the skilful ending from Fable one.
• I was nether the impression that Theresa from Fable ii was the Ghost of Theresa from Fable 1.

The Theresa in Fable 2 is really Theresa.

I pretty much believed this from the showtime. The game makes a point of mentioning that there are immortals among the people every bit the game is being played, and it has nothing to do with the story. It could be a reference to your ability, in theory, to play the game infinitely after you lot've finished the primary quest, merely information technology seems unlikely as time doesn't seem to pass in a progression of years as information technology did in Fable, except for the one large chunk in the center of the game.

• Immature Theresa in Fable had her eyes sliced out. That sounded to me similar a pocketknife was taken direct to her eyeball, or cutting just over her eyelids (and vertical scars over the eyes, long faded, seem to be suggested on Theresa in Legend 2). Both of these possibilities would leave the residuum of her confront relatively intact and ungrotesque, especially given a thousand years to heal. As for the blindfold, the redness effectually information technology looks more like irritation or tattooing than blood or evidence of some terrible permanent injury.
  • Tattooing definitely sounds similar something Twinblade would do, every bit at that place are already tattoos in evidence on her artillery.
• Young Theresa doesn't apparently age past puberty — she stays looking youthful equally you go grey.
• Young Theresa always wore red and white, as Theresa does, and nosotros know they both take a lot of Will power, fifty-fifty though the demonstrations of it are limited.
• Theresa's phonation definitely seems to lucifer as something Young Theresa'southward voice could historic period into.
• We know Young Theresa is rather harder to kill than the average person, given that abandoned in a forest bleeding heavily from the eyes less than a hundred miles from a constantly-snowy climate should have killed anyone in hours, non days.
• Your attacks accept no issue on Theresa, the aforementioned as the other immortal we run across in the games.
  • I rather call back that'southward because she's a plot-essential grapheme.
    • Work with me here.
• The tapestry shown of your ancestor shows him taking the practiced path and tossing abroad the sword by default (the cloak in the tapestry for keeping the sword was black, in the original Fable, and the cloak to toss information technology was gold, which is what'southward shown), lending further credence to the "history confusing it with Avo'south Tear" theory.
  • And even apart from this, if you lot did wield the Sword of Aeons, we run across Theresa autumn to the footing and then a cutscene and the credits. Falling != dying in every instance.
• If you perform various expressions in front of Theresa in Legend II, she will comment that you remind her of someone she used to know. Her brother, perhaps?

Also, the official wiki basically says information technology, merely then it points out without confirming or denying well-nigh every theory on this page. The official wiki says then.

• In that location really is no possible way information technology isn't Teresa from Fable ane. It's also confirmed in an official Fable II art book.
• In one of the Fable 3 programmer diaries, Theresa's vocalisation actress says something along the lines of "she was blinded as a immature daughter, I believe yous run into that happen in the first game." The footage probably wouldn't take been used if it wasn't truthful.
  • Whether she's lived for 500 years, died and been resurrected, or a time traveler, is more the question...'
    • It is this troper's personal theory that the bloodline of William Black is by default immortal by their own choosing and may choose to die if they're contented or simply wish to. Scythe/William Black himself is still live by the time of Legend II, taking intendance of Rose should you lot choose Love. Theresa is also live. Now, ane could say that Sparrow died because the bloodline of Black was heavily diluted past the fourth dimension he/she had been born, just maybe Sparrow died because he/she had settled down into a comfortable life(via returning the bloodline of the Archon to the throne of Albion) and given birth to a family and therefore was contented and ready to dice. Theresa, on the other hand, has a noticeable air of tense appetite about her all throughout the 2d game and peradventure even the 3rd game, as she guided the Prince/ss through each and every step of the quest via the Road to Dominion with the limited purpose of saving Albion grade the Crawler. In a way, she's remained alive because she has a personal, and rather selfish, drive to improve herself and therefore she's restless and refuses to dice. In another aspect, she's as well now something of a self-appointed guardian; watching over Albion from the Spire and using her visions of the time to come to guide it and shape it, more or less condign some other Scythe, who is also her distant antecedent. Scythe, as well, is a self-appointed Guardian of Albion, as he helped Nostro form the Hero'southward Club and remained on the sidelines for the better part of history, only stepping in to farther shape it to his ain ends(like when he aided Weaver and Maze in their uprising confronting the Society leadership and had Weaver appointed as Guildmaster). In and so doing, nosotros at present have 2 powerful forces, Theresa and Scythe, interim as guardians of Albion, actively shaping information technology to their own ends. Odds are, Fable IV volition run across this disharmonize to its natural stop...
    • The person taking care of Rose is expressionless and in the afterlife. If the person with her is Scythe (mayhap, maybe not) and so he's dead too. Personally, my money is on a Theresa/Reaver disharmonize. If you presume she's along the lines of Chaotic Good or Truthful Neutral (she seems to move from the latter to the former over the class of the serial), she cannot abide someone similar Reaver for very long.
    • Well, Word of God holds that it's Scythe taking care of Rose. Plus, why would information technology be in the afterlife, considering that the Love ending brings Rose back to life?

The person Rose meets in the Family Ending is...

Either Scythe, or Jack of Blades.She says he was scary at first, merely doesn't seem so bad. Both accept an intimidating advent, nonetheless both act quite friendly when you lot commencement meet them in F1, Jack fifty-fifty more so than ScytheHe claims to know her family, Jack is very familiar with the lineage, while Scythe, beingness the Archon, is her ancestor.She says he looks kind of like a rex, and while Archon was a male monarch, Jack certainly acts like one.She says he's very skinny, and wears a hooded robe. Both attributes shared by Scythe and Jack.She as well mentions his name is difficult to remember. the Archon's original name was William Black, a particularly generic proper name. Jack is also a generic name, although Jack of Blades is nigh likley a championship. He may have told her his truthful name, which would exist likley bizarre by Albion'south standards.

• I thought that the person was supposed to be God, or maybe Death.
• Information technology would make sense for Scythe to accept intendance of her, if he really is her ancestor.

  • Word of God confirms that it was Scythe and that Jack is dead for proficient.

At the end of Fable 1, the Hero puts on Jack'southward Mask

As mentioned in the previous entry, the merely determined factors of the Hero's life is that he beat Jack, and wielded the Sword of Aeons. Therefore, its not entirely impossible that the Hero wore Jack's mask instead of destroying it. Of course, one wonder why Jack isn't reigning over Albion by F2. Perhaps the Hero was just too strong for Jack to control, only non stiff enough to beat out Jack's listen completely. The Hero makes a deal with Jack, Jack gets the Sword of Aeons, but is cast into another realm. Should someone find this, than Jack is free to try and influence them.

• Which tin be tied into the previous entry, in that Jack will now make Rose into his successor/host, and return to Albion in Fable 3 as 'Rose of Blades'
• Jossed.

Reaver didn't actually go teleported to Samarkand following your defeat of Lucien

Considering all the terrible deeds he's committed, and the fact that he actually wasn't much assist aside from being necessary for the ritual, information technology wouldn't be unsurprising if Theresa took punishing him into her own hands, and teleported him to some remote and unknown location, from which he will be unable to return and make his sacrifice to the Shadow Courtroom, thus dooming him to being taken by them himself.Of form, this could merely be wishful thinking. But come on, he killed Barnum, dammit!

• I've heard rumors that some hereafter DLC for the game (not Knothole Isle) would kinda choice upwardly plotlines with some of the main hero NPCs and they were most interested in Reaver. Considering he got zero development and had less than 15 minutes of [gauge] screen-time total, it would brand sense for a potential DLC pack to focus on him.
• He'south confirmed as a grapheme in Fable iii, and from the footage appears to be a prominent one.
• Jossed. In Fable III, y'all can find a volume detailing his travels in Samarkand including the fact he was thinking about killing Garth. Information technology'south left open as to whether he actually kills him or not.

All of the Above volition be true in F3

Theresa of Aeons managed to escape Jack's clutches, rendering his powerless in a voidrealm. However, equally shown in F1, The Sword of Aeons loses power if its non used. For this, it needed the Spire, to give information technology full capacity and the capability of wielding itself.Meanwhile, Jack manages to steal Rose's torso, which is what the reddish low-cal was in the ritual circumvolve in Legend 2. He was as well late to use her, only if the spire brings her back to life, and so suddenly he has the solution to his trouble. Past manipulating, grooming, and ultimately possessing Rose, he will break free and return to Albion to reign over again.Theresa of Aeons, retaining her gift of foresight, learns of this once its too belatedly to stop Jack'due south escape. The remnants of Theresa behave a grudge against Jack, and decide to stop him. Rose of Blades needs the Sword of Aeons to regain absolute power, and goes later it.Each is to afraid to face ane another directly, so they decide to manipulate the latest Scion of Archon into doing their bidding. This volition he the Hero of Fable 3, and will culminate in the Hero taking the power of Theresa of Aeons, Rose of Blades, both, or neither for themself, and shaping the earth from thereon in.

If you choose the Bad ending of the Prologue The Commandant is Derek the Guard

After Lucien sacks Derek he leaves the town of Bowerstone forever. Notwithstanding we see Lucien again only Derek seems to take magically disappeared, except Lucien being not heartless in the prologue gave Derek a second run a risk and they went to the Spire together. In Luciens diaries he mentions experimenting on people to make Spire Soldiers (every bit in the pale guys with trench coats and super strength) before the start of the game. Nosotros later larn that these experiments were failing when Garth calls the Commandant "a freak, Lucien's failed expirement". So later experimenting on more than and more people Lucien finally perfects the style to making Spire Soldiers and forces Derek, for his failure to get back the wanted posters to become the dreaded Commandant of his forces.

Theresa sold out Hammer

Non at all unrelated with the WMG proverb Theresa is behind everything. Imagine this, Lucien has been hunting down the 3 Heroes unimpeded for ten years between the prologue and the time the Hero gets to Oakvale, all the same his minions show up at the Temple of Calorie-free on the exact same day that the Hero shows up to recruit Hannah, and merely moments subsequently Theresa complains that the girl needs a reason to abandon her vows and fight. So to nail 2 birds with i stone; getting rid of Hannah's obligations and giving her motivation to fight Lucien, Theresa deliberately allowed the bad guys to know where to find the Hero of Strength. The game never explicitly says she's a overnice person. She's not.

The person looking after Rose in the Love catastrophe is the hero from Fable I

Okay, here goes: Afterwards the events of Legend: TLC, Theresa and the Hero traveled together for a while, until eventually he was mortally wounded past some great evil. Theresa then used her volition powers to send him to a worldlet where he could recover. This gave her enough Will XP to get the immortality ability, which explains why she's all the same around. Unfortunately, getting the Hero out of the worldlet proved harder than sending him at that place, so Theresa traveled some more, and eventually establish data on The Spire. She then manipulated Lucien into rebuilding the spire and the Legend Two Hero into killing Lucien afterwards, then she could have the spire, so she can figure out how to harness its power into getting her blood brother dorsum from the worldlet and giving him immortality every bit well.

As well, Rose finds the Legend I Hero familiar because he's her distant ancestor and looks like to her male parent. And she says his name is hard to remember because the Fable I Hero was never given a existent proper name, so its entirely possible his existent name is something so nondescript information technology's easily forgotten. The some sort of king, I have no idea about, perchance after Fable I, the Hero started a kingdom somewhere subsequently fighting off all the monsters in that location or married some male monarch'due south daughter as a reward for some quest, who knows?

• Or his status as a "king" is in fact his Mayorhood of Bowerstone!
• It'southward worth noting that Rose says he looks like a king, not that he is one, and Rose is, mentally, twelve years sometime and has been homeless for much of her life, and then anyone dressed better than the peasants she more often than not sees could probably be mistaken for a male monarch.
• Alternately, when finishing the Arena, if you killed Whisper you're referred to as "the new Arena King."

Heroes cannot be killed, except by another Hero

The Quaternary Hero in Fable Ii cannot exist killed past annihilation. He falls to the basis, then immediately gets back up and continues fighting. The Oakvale Hero had a niggling more risk (since he could technically dice) just since his death was never canon, and after every death y'all were brought back to simply before the mission with all of the experience you lot had from the quest, we tin presume that he could not dice either. Also note that every Hero who died within the stories was killed by another Hero. In fact the only canon event that goes against this is the assault on the Heroes lodge. (Maybe they no longer count as Heroes if they aren't adventuring enough?)

• Also I similar the name "The Oakvale Hero". It'south a lot easier to say than "The Protagonist of the first Fable game and the Lost Chapters expansion"
• The main characters of Fable I and Fable II are canonically named: "The Hero of Oakvale" and "The Hero of Bowerstone" respectively.
• Legend 3 now supports this theory since in that location you lot tin can never actually die. Yous get knocked unconscious for all of two seconds then leap back to life with a burst of light. Enemies even comment on it: "He's not supposed to get back up!"

The Legend 2 protagonist is Immortal

This would explain why he or she is non afflicted gameplay wise past the spirits nearly the end of the game.

The Fable 2 protagonist is Dead

Both the Fable 2 Hero and Rose were killed by a runaway wagon while talking to the lady and the tramp. Notice that nothing overtly magical (The Music Box, for example) happens to the Fable ii Hero until after this signal in time. The story of Legend two is the dying dream of a young child who'd desperately wanted something better.

The Fable three protagonist tin can be the son/daughter of Theresa

Note that in Legend 2, information technology was pretty much stated that only people with the blood of hero'south could go hero'southward. It was also stated that only 4 heros survived, only 3 of them only have a third of the bloodline. That leaves but one person who is able to spread the heroic Blood, otherwise known as the Hero of Bowerstone. But what happens if this hero is gay/lesbian? In that case, there will be a take chances of the Hero never fathering children. Which ways that the heroic bloodline will never be passed on.

Or so information technology seems. Even bold that you lot didn't cull the choice of family unit, there is actually one other person in the globe known to accept heroic blood of all 3 kinds. Theresa, and its even possible that shes stronger blood wise and then the bodily Hero of Bowerstone. She has also shown that shes not afraid to make a directly intervention into things in lodge to ensure her visions come to laissez passer. So, realising that it might not actually happen otherwise, she gets herself pregnant. After having the infant, she claims to be dying of one-time historic period or similar, giving it to her sometime friend who owes her a favor or two for taking care of them. not to mention helping them become revenge on Lucien.

The baby gets raised equally the Hero's, with the complete bloodline. In addition to this, since the blood running through the childs veins is Theresa'due south, it is far more potent, allowing for the wings and other such things.

Reaver is the son of the Hero of Oakvale.

He's got heroic blood, he comes from Oakvale, then it seems probable that there'due south some connection in that location. Growing upwardly in the shadow of his heroic begetter gave him Issues, which was why he made his sick-brash deal with the Shadow Courtroom and wound up where he did.

• Surely that means that Reaver and the Hero of Bowerstone are descended from the aforementioned person? Which makes all those femsparrow/Reaver fanfics a footling... disturbing.
  • Sparrow could even exist descended from Reaver himself. Say it with me now...ewwwwww.
    • except it'southward pretty well established in the second game that Reaver will do anything that moves, if it only happened to exist in the course of his great slap-up great great 1000 daughter then that'south only a carp. it's amend than the third one... balvarines...

Rose, had she grown up, would take been a will-based hero.

She got her ass kicked by a bully and died after one shot in the chest, while your much younger character beat up said bully and survived beingness shot and falling through a window. Lucien conspicuously states "you are heroes," pregnant both of yous, and then she must exist one. It'south just that she'south a Drinking glass Cannon mage who hasn't learned to cast spells yet.

• I normally stay out of here (on the grounds that I really know which of these are truthful or false, by and large), but considering this one won't Joss anything or ruin Fable three for anyone, I'll mention that in early on drafts of the plot for Fable 2 Rose was the hero of skill.

Should Rose render for Legend three she volition be tougher from living with Scythe also she'll be younger then Sparrow

Since Scythe is a skeletal figure we know rose wont be getting her freak on with Scythe so what else can a powerfulwarrior and the sis of the greatest hero in Albion since Oakvale do together? How about training! Also when she was ressurected was she resurrected at the age she died at? then she'd exist younger so sparrow now.

Peter Molyneux hates family

This ones simpleFable 1: Theresa has her eyes cut out is found by bandits and is possibly raped by them earlier becoming Twinblades little servant girl. Your mother, Scarlet Robe, is tortured by jack of blades before she died, and your dad was killed.Legend 2: mom and dads expressionless. Your sis gets shot in the chest, Lucien kills your wife/husband and kids, and your canis familiaris. And if you resurrect your family unit you dont even go reunited with Rose.Fable 3: You play the younger blood brother of a new tyrant king and have to degrade him. Will he exist killed? This is a molyneux game after all

Hero blood grows stronger in each new generation

William Black needed Jack's sword to beat him eons agone, yet his decendant, the Hero of Oakvale, was able to defeat him (possibly very easy) when Jack had the sword at full power. Then flash-forward to Sparrow, who could accept more skill with firearms (headshots and selecting limbs, fifty-fifty able to shoot weapons from enemies' hands, as well as being unable to die. Next, in Fable III, the Prince/Princss is able to combine two spells with spell weaving, and is able to morph their body and fifty-fifty weapons depending on choices and alignment. Assuming this isn't just a gameplay mechanic, and everyone generation is meant to exist stronger and more powerful, it could be that the Hero blood gets stronger over time, instead of being diluted as nearly people believe.

• Maybe not: in Fable three, the hero cannot utilize magic without the gauntlets, and cannot use the time stop or shielding spells (though, the ability to mix spells and use ice spells IS new), glowing Volition lines only appear if the character has tattoos, and the body modifications that Heroes had in the previous game (such as demonic or celestial forms) only appear if the King/Queen is focusing.
• I doubt it. Jack was possessing a human body when he fought the Hero of Oakvale, then was probably way more fragile than when he was in his own torso. He also mentions that the Sword is "a shadow of what it was before", so I don't think he had any where near the power he used to hold back when he fought William Black. Plus, the description of William Black'due south magic abilities makes him sound similar a full-blown Reality Warper, not just some magician. I don't think whatsoever ane really comes close to that.
• I e'er assumed that the "hero" factor expressed itself differently from hero to hero, based on stuff like personality, destiny, and so on. For case, the hero of Oakvale, having formal preparation in hero abilities, had more supporting magical powers like shielding, berserk and multi-pointer. The hero of Bowerstone, raised on the streets, had incredible mundane skills, like counter-attacking (even the forcefulness-based powers were partially skill-based) and headshots. Finally, the hero of Brightwall had incredible magical force, simply very little in the style of finesse. They besides, every bit the just hero thus far, gained power Not by exercising their heroic powers, but from the people of their kingdom. Presumably, the other heroic lines, such as those of Briar Rose, Twinblade, Whisper/Thunder, Maze(/Garth?), Hammer (who had power fifty-fifty before her awakening as a Hero) and probably some of the boss bandits from II, work differently.
  • I concord with yous as far as to the hero of brightwall, his fighting fashion seems to consist, apart from when he uses magic, entirely OF finesse.
  • This would be supported by the other heroes we see, since only the protagonists from the Fable games get anything like the angel/devil treatment. If they did, Reaver would take horns up to the ceiling past at present, and Hammer probably would have gone blonde at some signal.

Theresa created the Darkness

.Spoilerific, read at your ain risk.

• I think nosotros tin all pretty much agree at this betoken that Theresa is a MASSIVE MANIPULATIVE Bitch, this follows logically from that knowledge. Theresa used the ability of the Spire from the last game and created the Darkness Incarnate. She is systematically destroying the globe and rebuilding information technology in her own image, just giving you, her blood brother'south descendant and a member of her own bloodline, a (slim) chance of survival. There may be more to her motives, only it seems pretty clear to me that any the reason for it, she is behind the Darkness. I mean really just call up about it: information technology'due south a forcefulness which sucks abroad light, leaving its victims blinded. It speaks constantly of children, childhood, and bitterness. It takes the form of demonic humans and armored warriors, and when it catches yous, information technology leaves you lot with the appearance of having had your eyes gouged out. Fighting it for the second time this Troper couldn't assist but draw parallels between that night desert cave and Theresa's horrific experiences equally a young girl in the first Fable game.

The entirety of the Fable-verse is really Theresa's PTSD-induced hallucinations.

Because why not.

The pie lady is an extremely wealthy pervert who gets her jollies from watching people put the top crusts on pies.

Yous're certainly not making thousands of gold from the sale of the pies. And there's certainly null else that could explain why she plainly just stands in that location and watches you piece of work.

• She must be related to whoever pays you to stand around and play the lute, then. At that place's no possible fashion I made twenty,000 gold busking off a group of iii or four Dwellers.
• Or she's Albion's Chairman Kaga, planning to open a Kitchen Stadium, and "speed pie crust rolling" is the competition she's using to choose her Iron Chefs. The huge pay is to encourage the best chefs in Albion to leave their jobs and give information technology a try.

He sacrificed Albion and Aurora to the Shadow Court to make Reaver Industries a Mega-Corp. The Crawler is an agent of the Shadow Court whose purpose is to kill sacrifices. No real evidence for this except that it sounds like something that Reaver would exercise.

• Supported by See The Future in which the Shadow Court, whom Reaver made his deal with, have an obsession with a colourless world, similar to The Darkness.

The Crawler is a member of the Courtroom, peradventure even Jack of Blades himself.

Both the Court and The Crawler come from The Void, they take similar goals in mind, ie enslaving and/or destroying Albion, they share a like voice, and both accept the ability, and apparently require the ability, to possess people.

The members of the Court were actually aliens.

The "Void" that they come up from could simply be outer space. I don't think anyone in Albion could tell the difference betwixt going to another dimension and going to an alien planet/spaceship or whatever.

• Following on from this, William Black/the Archon/Scythe was an alien, too... virtually probable the last son of a doomed world. His "parents" (the blacksmith and his married woman) just institute him in the bullrushes. Every bit for the iconography of what would centuries later become the Guild Seal... well, that was his true family unit crest.

Logan planned the Fable iii revolution.

The human looks way besides happy when you and Walter break down his door and I instantly went 'Hang on a infinitesimal . . .'. This is the supposedly all evil tyrant of Albion and his reaction to his blood brother/sister most probably coming to kill him is to sheath his sword? He defeated - or at least survived - the Crawler. He may not be a Hero but he must be pretty impressive and almost definitely able to lucifer Walter. He knows he isn't a hero but Theresa tells the Hero of Bowerstone that their kid volition fulfill their destiny in the fate of Aurora and Albion. Even if that's ALL Logan knew its very possible that he was pretty positive that he knew the Prince/Princess was a Hero even before Walter. When you escape the castle he doesn't wait very difficult to find you lot even though every bit a tyrant he ought to be murdering anyone that supports you. Even before then the Hero doesn't show much of an inclination towards well anything regarding going confronting Logan even though they're clearly getting information from exterior the castle. The speech Walter was and so impressed by was entirely Elliot/Elise's idea so when Logan says he'due south not going to treat you like a child anymore is literally to boot you up the dorsum end and then that you hate him which means you leave the castle with Walter. You lot come back win against his army with an ground forces of mainly civilians - so now there'due south 2 armies that tin can face the Darkness - gold to help support the kingdom, experience of life outside the castle, experience every bit a Hero and with the support of the people of Albion. If you kill him he dies. If yous pardon him he slips away, fights the Crawler with the assist of the army he helped raise and obviously leaves Albion. Not the actions of a power mad tyrant or fifty-fifty anyone that wants a identify in court. Albion survives and his parent'due south family rules the kingdom - every bit far equally Logan's concerned he wins.

Walter is scheming git

From what I can tell he has no plans to leave with the Prince/Princess until after he finds out they're a Hero and a perfect flocking bespeak for a rebellion. When you go to the Hero of Bowerstone's burial cave thing he says he promised to bring you here when you were old enough and strong enough - he had to wait until yous were at least 17 if not older to practise that? He may likewise say he promised to bring you in that location if y'all were a Hero different your brother.

• Walter states that he didn't realize how terrible the situation was with Logan until Logan decided to murder the protesters and forced the Prince/ss to choose between three strangers and his/her childhood sweetheart. It implies that he was waiting until the Princess wasn't, you know, a teenager before trying to start a revolution with the Hero at its head. Not to mention that the Prince/ss is incredibly sheltered at the kickoff of the game, to the signal of never having left Bowerstone Castle. Information technology's possible that Walter wanted to build up the Prince/ss' skill and so due south/he would be strong enough to pb a revolution, and and then show her/him the situation with the people to educate her/him on what Logan has washed, instead of abruptly saying, "Okay, it'southward time to leave behind everything yous've ever known, everyone you know salve for the butler and me, toss you into the incredibly unsafe wilderness, and usurp your brother in a bloody insurrection. Fix? Go!"

Fable 4 will be set up in Samarkand.

Call up nigh it: Why would Lionhead determine to create from scratch another country, Aurora, to help out the Hero in Legend 3, when he could have sent us to Samarkand, or to the Northern lands where Hammer went, ii places that players would love to see included in the games? Well, to make them the main regions of the next game(s)! Considering that pretty soon, Albion volition end up in the modern age or at least WW1 era technology if nosotros fifty-fifty just jump 50 years each games, a logical solution would be to prepare them somewhere else.

• As well, better tech makes traveling long distances easier. So a time to come game could feature Albion, Samarkand and North :D

All of this is a story Theresa is telling to someone. Showtime a new charater in Fable II and you'll hear her say: "And who is the hero of our tale?" Would explain why you tin't die in Legend Ii, because that's not what happen in her tale!

• What practice yous recall?

The Rebellious Chicken is a Hero.

If the blackness chicken you meet running out of the kitchen and trying to fly is the Rebellious Chicken, then it could possibly have the will power to survive fifty-fifty death. Plus, getting defenseless in that furnace in the intro really should have killed it.

• Indeed. When y'all open up the kitchen door while heading at that place with Elise/Elliot, there'south a black chicken flocking through the doorway.

Theresa wanting the Prince/Princess on the throne has admittedly nada to practice with their leadership.

After all, she nevertheless praises you lot if you do admittedly everything Logan would have. When she says you're the only ane capable of defeating the Crawler, she actually does mean that you're the merely one physically capable of defeating it and that'southward all. You have at least two things Logan doesn't - one, superpowers and then greater fighting capabilities and indestructibility, and 2, Walter - if information technology weren't for his relationship with the Hero, the Crawler might not take made itself vulnerable. As for her involvement in the coup and whatnot, either it was just to get Logan out of the style, to play forth, a roundabout style of sending yous to Aurora at least in one case beginning, whatever combination of the above, and/or more.

Lionhead is building upward to something with Reaver.

Seriously, looking at his complete Karma Houdini nature, it's most likely that in a future game (peradventure Fable iv) the histrion gets the choice to either obliterate or humiliate him in an epic manner, or further reward and perpetuate his Jerkass legacy.

• There'southward gotta exist something here. It's obvious that the common thread character for the unabridged saga is going to be Theresa, who is at the very least True Neutral if not Cluttered Adept or Neutral Good. A character similar that cannot bide such an plain Chaotic Evil character as Reaver forever — if you lot're going to call Theresa Truthful Neutral, she's a "keeping the balance" sort, and someone with as much power and as much potential for evil every bit Reaver is eventually going to singlehandedly upset this residue. If she's Something Practiced, you don't even need that much justification. Also, you can brand a (relatively weak, imo) statement for Reaver as extreme Chaotic Neutral, but even if that is the closest affair to his "real" alignment, we see him commit much more corruption and evil than skillful, and so it'due south clear he'll end upward upsetting the same remainder anyway or, if he has a Heel–Face Plow of some kind, still accept the reputation as an evil homo that volition still make this seem necessary.

Fable 4 will take place in Aurora and Albion about 50 years after the events of Fable 3, and will include a western scenario and an Albion similar to the version in the previous game. The character volition be the hero in Legend 3's grandson/daughter.

Think about it. Information technology could exist similar in scenario to Cherry Expressionless Redemption, offer a desert filled with cowboys built-in in Albion and settling in new country, and Albion could be given an Old West theme likewise, including Paddle steamers and stagecoaches to easily become around the various regions. The thespian could, based on his/her decisions, rise to the rank of a Governer to Bowerstone, or sink depression to go the nearly notorious bandit in Albion and Aurora.

• Problem with this is that it'southward a very not-British setting for Albion. Possibly a settlement from across the seas in another continent, but a Wild West theme doesn't seem to fit with the Fable series' Britishness. Reaver as an outlaw/corrupt cattle baron would be kinda hilarious though.

Reaver planned on destroying the Crawler all along

Tying into to Gauge to a higher place (that the Crawler was an agent of the Shadow Court), Reaver traded all the people of Albion for true immortality and the Court agreed, planning on sending the Crawler to take the people. Nevertheless, Reaver sided with the King of Albion (both Logan and The Hero) to both give them the financial adjutant they'd need to defeat the Crawler, increase his own wealth through Reaver Industries AND get toll complimentary immortality past destroying the Shadow Court.

Heroes are in some way related to the Time Lords and the Sanctuary is your TARDIS

While Heroes, equally a rule, do not need intelligence, their enhanced abilities and sparsity makes the link at least possible. The Sanctuary that you utilise in Legend iii is, in fact, your personal TARDIS. The main room has a primitive console in the heart (the behemothic map) that lets you transport anywhere in the globe. Information technology has several rooms for something that initially seems so small, and the dressing room fifty-fifty reminds this troper of the study in i of the recent 11th Doctor take a chance game ready exclusively in the TARDIS. Every bit far equally the player is concerned too, you tin can cary a large corporeality of equipment, indicating your pockets are bigger on the inside.

• What is the Social club Seal if not an early on precursor of the Seal of Rassilon?

Rose's wish of living in a castle did come true, but not like how she wanted.

• Maybe the box's granting wishes is similar a Literal Genie? Maybe she said something to the issue of, "I wish I could spend the remainder of my life in a castle." Well, she did spend the balance of her life in a castle. Her terminal few hours of life were spent in Lord Lucien's castle earlier he gunned her downwards. And so she did spend the residual of her life in a castle; information technology just wasn't how she wanted.

Theresa is trying to shape the Hero of Bowerstone into the first hero... by killing their family

Theresa wants the Hero of Bowerstone to succeed, she really does. However, ane of the greatest heroes of all-fourth dimension was the Hero of Oakvale, who started out his journeying with... you guessed it, expressionless (or then believed) family. Being the sis to the first Hero also gives her a slight bias towards him. Thus she tries to shape the second hero into the first by killing their family when all she actually needs to do is sit down down, and have a squeamish chat and become "Dude, you should totally become a kickass Hero". Similar to Sins of Our Fathers, in an odd way. Very tragic, actually.

Theresa took control of The Spire as a backup plan in example The Crawler succeeded in destroying Albion

The Spire's purpose is to remake Albion into whatever its possessor wishes. What meliorate reason to use it than reversing Albion becoming a giant puddle of darkness? Luckily, Programme A (you lot) kept that from existence necessary.

Jack of Blades and the Crawler are one and the aforementioned.

Except after being killed so many times, he'southward dropped the Faux Affably Evil and simply gone Ax-Crazy.

• Unlikely though (only admittedly not impossible). It's unsaid that the Crawler has been around for ages. On the other hand, it'southward simply as probable that the Crawler only popped upwards when (or slightly earlier) Logan arrived in Aurora.

The Crawler was Lucien

At the climax of Legend two, Sparrow sends Lucien to his death, blasting him from the top of the Spire. Into the depths. Into the darkness. Lucien, however, survived his autumn. His chance of mending his misfortune gone, his only hope stolen from him, he makes his wish. If he cannot reshape the earth into something more than pleasing, more but, then he will see it consumed by the darkness that surrounds him, within and without. He makes his wish... and The Crawler is born.

The Hero of Brightwall isn't really a natural-born hero

Compared to the previous heroes of the bloodline, the protagonist of Legend iii is more than a footling strange; you need special gauntlets to use magic powers, yous don't go the aforementioned sort of Volition lines even when you practise, you 'automatically' absorb experience orbs (which are all red - the defacto colour for Volition energy since Legend ii) and you have to get all of your upgrades from a dream-like Road to Rule which looks similar it could definitely be within of the Spire. Yous describe your powers from the people yous ally with and rule over rather than through your ain use of them, and at the end, Theresa 'bestows' your final form upon you, which only shows up when you're executing special moves or trying to look that manner on purpose, whereas previous heroes only gradually got their shifts in advent.

My theory is that the Prince/Princess was originally in the same boat as Logan; child of a Hero, with Heroic blood in their veins, simply no bodily manifestation of said blood. Just Theresa needed a Hero to fight the Crawler, or else Albion was boned. And so she used the Spire to bestow Hero powers on the younger royal sibling, since Logan was already well-established as an ordinary dude and mayhap unsuitable to her purposes for other reasons.

Alternately, the Prince/Princess is a Hero, but non as various of a one every bit Sparrow had been. Rather than having access to all three powers, you're really only a Force-based Hero. Hence your being able to break Walter'south sword in do, but not being able to use magic on your own. Theresa used the Spire to broaden your abilities to give y'all an edge.

• I always thought that the gauntlets were because of the lack of preparation that the Prince/Princess got in comparison to the first and second Heroes. The Hero of Oakvale is trained in the Guild, and even the Hero of Brightwall gets some background preparation from Theresa - fifty-fifty if the ruins of the Guild is the first time nosotros run across them put it to use. The Hero of Brightwall goes direct from "never been out of the castle" to "welp, fourth dimension to pb a revolution!" The gauntlets are similar the Will equivalent of preparation wheels; only that'southward the only manner you e'er larn, because at that place's no one effectually to teach yous how to use spells without them. (Except Theresa, and since information technology'southward non necessary for her agenda, well, the Prince/Princess is stuck with the kiddie-bike.)

Percival the Dragon from Legend:Edge of the earth is the Knight of Blades.

Percival is the proper noun of a knight and Jack of Blades did take the class of a dragon so why wouldn't the Knight of Blades?

Going off of the above: Fable 4 will have yous choose between Percival(Good) and The Jack of Blades(evil).

Of course it turns out that Percival is The Knight of Blades and thus on the the same side as The Jack of Blades and you have to fight both at the stop of Fable 4.

Taking the above into account: The Corrupter is the penultimate boss of Fable 4

Equally The Man backside Man for The Crawler, Bigger Bad of Fable 2 and three plus Big Bad of The Journeying who does not die during any of those 3 games unlike his lieutenant(The Crawler) and the evil half of William Blackness AKA Scythe he'll exist treated as the master villain and both The Jack of Blades and Percival(who'll be revealed to exist The Knight of Blades) volition backstab the hero afterward The Corrupter is dead and become the Final Dominate.

Logan is son of...

• Alex is the father/ Female parent of Logan: the Till Death Do The states Function.
• Lady greyness is the mother of Logan: Dear Hurts

Logan was killed by Lucien.

Logan was built-in during the events of the second game and was killed by Lucien.

The guards in Oakvale in the beginning of Legend TLC were actually Bargate Prison Guards

At present, obviously this is a bit of a stretch, but upon playing Fable Anniversary, I noticed there were no guards laying among the pile of bodies in the raid on Oakvale. Given that Jack of Blades seemed to know where to go when looking for Scarlet Robe, Theresa, and the Hero of Oakvale, it is entirely possible that Jack had planted several guards from Bargate Prison into Oakvale as a means of searching for those of the Archon Bloodline.

Leveling upwardly (In at least the get-go game) speeds upward the heroes' life.

As put on the main page on the outset game, Rapid Crumbling happens every time you gain a level. The leveling up procedure is a way of speedily gaining skills faster for heroes and arguably more efficiently, merely the merely negative side effect is that it drains y'all several years during the process of learning several skills. So, this probably means that if 1 is not careful, they may air current up killing themselves by accident when wanting to become stronger in one or more skills.

Sparrow or Rose

killed Max & Sam Spade.Their last act live is to summon a Queen Banshee. That one enemy who is simply as vicious to Sparrow and Rose as Lucian is. Sparrow tin can keep quiet almost what they've washed, merely they have clearly shown that they are unsafe. As well dangerous to alive? Who is to say due south/he wouldn't remember It's Personal and was behind their deaths? Or if Sparrow couldn't become through with it and south/he resurrects Rose (doing and then implies they end up reunited,) well she'due south a Bully Hunter and not exactly pure, she'd probable be upwardly to the task of bumping off a couple of fools.

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